a historian wrote:Spontaneous lucid dream this morning. After waking up, which happened about an hour ago, I have been thinking about it quite a lot. Because it's always useful to write thoughts down (or, more accurately, think while writing), I try to make some more or less significant remarks concerning this experience.
I have a tendency to write my thoughts post-phase state, too. It tends to turn me into a philosopher, and more so when there is a prominent buzzing in my head, like it's super-active or something.
a historian wrote:I don't know if my current state of mind and body had anything to do with the nature of the experience. I was drinking last night, and we also smoke some pot. Now I have a little hangover. Just mentioning this setting so that I can remember it later.
Hard to say without the means to obtain neuroscientific evidence. It may be that your experience would have been more intense if you hadn't inebriated yourself. Or perhaps the chemical cocktail had a (doubtful) favouring effect (on your lucidity at least). It certainly had some sort of influence on your brain chemistry.
a historian wrote:I also tried to fly and look down to this landscape, but as soon as I took off, everything disappeared and I could see only some lines and shapes. In a dream, I thought this might be so due to the fact that in reality we rarely see the world from this perspective, and so my mind couldn't create that kind of a sight.
This kind of bizarre thinking is not uncommon in the phase. This is something that Alan Worsley observed whilst experimenting with the phase state:viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15170
But, of course, it is possible to have clarity and bird's-eye view at the same time. Avoid giving power to mental barriers just because you had an inhibitory experience. In fact, the phase has the potential to sensorially outdo reality and to concoct forms that exist only in imagination. From the worldly information that it has already gathered, the mind can conjoin impressions and create its own art. Its abstractionism leads to surreal worlds that you can lucidly explore - and these awesome, mental worlds can influence new ideas for more wonder waiting to be born. That's the beauty of it!
a historian wrote:In dream-world there is no objective, stable world that I could see from this or that perspective. Everything is a creation of my mind, and as such, depends on the processes of this mind. It could be said that the dream-world is idealistic, in the sense of the philosophers like Berkeley. Monroe has also noticed this nature of this "world", although he considered it as objective. For example, he states that "Locale II [I think people here know something about Monroe's "Locales"] is a state of being where that which we label thought is the wellspring of existence." (Monroe, Journeys out of the body, Broadway Books 2001 , p. 74.)
Yes, it does have a tendency to be idealistic, and this may be tied to its subjective nature. In fact, I'd even go as far as saying that even when it turns nightmarish, it is ideal in this way. Despite the phase state, there are times when we get scared, when there is doubt that it is all in our heads. "What if that demonic figure is another sentient being?" we might ask. And if such figure comes for us in a terrifying manner, there may be a masochistic side to us that will allow the lucid nightmare to thrive. The awesomeness of how terrifying the bogeyman could look, something that special effects artists could take inspiration from whilst working in a horror film set.
a historian wrote:I made some tests, which, in that barely-conscious state, felt worthwhile. Somehow I found myself in a grocery store. I picked up some kind of a jar and tried to read its label. At first, it was all blurred and unreadable, but I kept on concentrating, and suddenly the text became very clear. Too bad I can't remember what it said, but it was very short and totally absurd text that had nothing to do with, well, with anything at all.
Practice and explore. Large text is easier. It tends to be gibberish but can be coherent on occasion. To remember, I tend to repeat it several times in the phase while on my way to another room or scenery. Remind yourself if it helps. It is also easier to remember that which you think is worth remembering! Have fun.
a historian wrote:the mind is everything and there is no outer world at all.
It's true only in the sense that all perception happens in the mind. There are other profound materialistic predications to be found in the scientific and philosophical works of intellectuals like Susan Blackmore and Daniel Dennett. The latter, as a cognitive scientist, has suggested that the self is an illusion. Note that this does not imply that the self doesn't exist, just that it may not be what it seems. The observer could be illusory, like the centre of gravity of objects in space, just a necessary or convenient abstraction.
Such ideas of no real self go back to the days of David Hume, who put forth bundle theory, although some may argue that the Buddha was the first bundle theorist. In "Guide to the Middle Way," Chandrakirti says: 'The self is like a cart, which is not other than its parts, not non-other, and does not possess them. It is not within its parts, and its parts are not within it. It is not the mere collection, and it is not the shape.'
a historian wrote:Another thing I've been thinking about is the lack of capability to think clearly and analytically in the dream. In the realm of sleep, imagination reigns and reason is somewhat paralyzed. (But this is too narrow of a way to put this. We should consider the nature of "imagination" and "reason" without making too sharp distinctions.) Is this incapability only due to the fact that I haven't been practicing lucid dreaming? Does the ability to think analytically increase, and how close can it get to the waking state?
You may refer to my Alan Worsley link above. There is certainly a natural force weighing against consciousness in the phase state as this one tends to fluctuate. This is why Raduga promotes the weapons of deepening, maintaining, and managing the phase. There is a struggle to stay on top of things in that realm, so to speak, but with practice one can attain more familiarity and success. You may still get the odd bizarre thinking even if you feel super-lucid, but irrationality can certainly be reduced - but do not get complacent (maintain your practice). A plan of action can also keep you focused as well as making it easier to remember the experience afterwards. I would also add that allowing abstract thought once in a while may also work in your favour in waking life as it can promote new perspectives for new ideas - but then again you can get this from ordinary dreaming.
a historian wrote:There was a lot of false awakenings in the dream. It was kind of a funny thing. In a dream I thought I was awake and tried to get back into the lucid dream. I had no contact to my physical body, it didn't even occur to me that I had a physical body. Even when I was aware that I was dreaming, I didn't compare that dream to the "real" reality but to the another dream world in which I was. So it was like a dream within a dream, and I thought that one of these dreams were "reality" and the other was the "dream". Only after I woke up, I realized how blurred my thinking and awareness had been.
False awakenings can occur often when one undertakes this practice. They are sometimes called pre-lucid dreams, although I think possible post-lucids seems to be more appropriate. They are also part of the phase state but the difference is that you don't know that you are in it as you mistaken the environment for reality. You may say, "well, don't we do this in ordinary dreaming, too?" Indeed we do, but in a false awakening your mental faculties are superior and you are more there as it were. Just the wrong interpretation.
In a way, out-of-body experiences interpreted as objective experiences - like Monroe with his Locale I - have something in common with false awakenings: the environment is believed to be the real world. Most scientists will say this view is erroneous and I agree. It is all subjective, in the mind, and since our sensory input from the external world is constrained during sleep, the phase world is completely made up from accumulated mental information. Because of this, lucid dreaming is the supreme form of the phase state simply because the practitioner correctly interprets his/her experience for what it really is while it's happening, hence: "I am dreaming!"