Usual Mistakes in Practice or Why You Can't Get Phase

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Usual Mistakes in Practice or Why You Can't Get Phase

Postby Michael Raduga » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:04 pm

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The Biggest Mistake


If you veer off the path I have shown you, you'll be either completely depriving yourself of a rewarding experience, or at least making such an experience a very rare event. I often have to fight with one very strange aspect of human psychology: the desire to do things in one's own way in a field that one knows nothing about.


I've done nearly everything I can: I've tested and described everything exactly, you can be quite sure that it will work. But then I'll go to talk with another practitioner, and it suddenly turns out that nothing is working for him. At least, that's what he says.

But once he starts to tell you what he did and how he did it, you immediately hear that he did exactly what you've told him dozens of times not to do. It turns out that he's done everything backwards. And if steps were taken in the right direction, then everything was done half-way, the wrong way, or no way, and the most fundamental elements were given no more than a passing try. Of course, it doesn't always turn out like that. It only does when someone is having problems with his practice. If there are no problems, that means that he's doing everything just as he was told.

And so, friend, I beg you to follow all of the instructions exactly. You're guaranteed to get a result. The more correctly you perform the techniques, the quicker the results will come. Some people get results during their first attempts.

But let's take a look at the most common mistake. I've already mentioned more than once here that one's practice should start only from the indirect techniques, that is techniques performed upon awakening. I've taught this phenomenon to thousands of people personally, and to a countless number through my books. I'm not saying that that's where you need to start just to have something to say. Indirect techniques are simply the easiest and most effective ones. For some reason, every second student will get some irresistible urge to buck my arguments and start from the hardest techniques: the direct ones, which are performed without accompanying sleep.

They usually tell me that direct techniques deliver more controllability. Yes, they do. And therein lies the problem. That's exactly why novices are unsuccessful with them, because beginners try to control them. In the section on direct techniques, you'll learn how they need to be performed in the opposite way - it is necessary to deliberately give up control over them and your conscious awareness for a certain period of time. And this is much more difficult than awakening and then entering the phase within a few moments.

Based on outward appearances, direct techniques seem preferable, which in and of itself draws people to them. However, indirect techniques need to be mastered first before trying anything else. Friend, such a desire will surely arise within you as well. But keep one thing in mind: indirect techniques work for everyone, while direct techniques are fraught with difficulty, even for those with much experience, let alone for a novice who has yet to learn the phenomenon from the inside out.

Starting from direct techniques is the same as walking into a weight-room for the first time in your life and trying to bench-press 500 pounds. No sane person would even think about doing that. It's simply unrealistic. It's first necessary to train for a certain period of time, which requires starting out from light weights. If the bench-press is a clear analogy, then direct techniques are a very near equivalent to those 400 pounds - lifting them would obviously be possible only after spending months working out, and require an incredible amount of strength. Yet the phase can be yours in literally a couple of days…

Yes, some people do have a predisposition for direct techniques, especially women. But whenever I talk about such predisposition, almost everyone thinks that I'm talking about them. You can forget about it. First learn what kind of phenomenon this is by performing specific actions upon awakening, and then - and only then - start experiments with direct techniques.

What's more, a lot of people may think that if they try both direct and indirect techniques simultaneously, then they will get, for example, guaranteed practice upon awakening, and sure practice with direct techniques before falling asleep. I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you, and even warn you. You are not a bottomless well of energy and strength. If you've been exhausting yourself with direct techniques all evening, then you'll have no energy or strength left to do anything correctly or effectively upon awakening. Based on my substantial observational data, I can categorically state that such an approach decreases the probability of having a successful experience by 50 to 80 percent.

The situation is even more ridiculous when a person attempting direct techniques has already suffered a fiasco with indirect techniques due to making mistakes, after having worked on them for say several weeks. I would like to emphasize that such a fiasco is possible only in the face of major mistakes and misunderstandings. And so, having tripped up over what is easiest, the unfortunate practitioner decides to move on to direct techniques - the hardest ones. Where's the logic? Being unable to do the easiest things, do you think that you will suddenly be able to do the hardest things? Now really? It's just the other way around! If you are still unable to take your conscious awareness out of your body upon awakening, then the one thing you have left to consider is becoming conscious while dreaming - but don't even think about direct techniques.

And so don't fiddle around, put all of your effort from the beginning into actions performed upon awakening - into the universal indirect techniques.

(Sadly, even after this being emphasized so much, a significant proportion of readers will nevertheless throw these warnings out the window and begin to torture themselves with direct techniques…)

Incomplete Performance of the Techniques

Another widespread problem is incomplete performance of the techniques. No less than 75% of practitioners who are learning using my techniques suffer from this. It's interesting to note that 75% of them do so deliberately. Friend, you'll see later on that you need not perform superhuman feats in order to achieve the phase state. As far as the indirect techniques are concerned, you just need perform a simple algorithm of actions upon awakening. Just complete everything that you are required to do in full. And perform everything just as it is described.

Let's observe a few examples of incomplete performance of the techniques. We'll start with cycles of indirect techniques - the one universal phase entrance technique-based technology. It entails the completion, upon awakening, of no less than 4 cycles of techniques for a total of 9-15 seconds each, until a technique works. For some reason, many think that the proscribed minimum of 4 cycles does not apply to them. And so they do 1 or 2 cycles…. Like the time at one of my seminars when two men of about the same age sat next to each-other, both in the neighborhood of 45 years old. This was the second session, and they spoke about what they had been doing, and how things were going for them. The first man said that he had started by doing 2 cycles during one attempt, but then seeing as nothing was working, he decided to stop right there, even though I had said the previous afternoon to do 4 cycles. I had repeated it again and again… The second gentleman had also started by doing two cycles and nothing worked for him either. But he then started to do a third cycle, just like I had said to do. Then, one of the techniques worked like a charm during the fourth cycle, and he was able to leave his body. However, if he had done everything like his neighbor in the classroom, then nothing would have happened for him either… I have introduced this example only because I remember it quite well, as two people sitting next to one another sharply contrasted in their approach to what they were told to do.

People also very often forget when performing indirect techniques to first try to separate, and only then do cycles. With direct techniques, people also tend to forget about the free-floating state of mind, though without it there's no point in expecting anything, as I always point out early on.

Sometimes incomplete performance of techniques happens not because of a person's psychology, but out of an inability to complete a task. For example, with indirect techniques, it's very important to awaken without moving. Many are simply unable to keep themselves from moving. However, achieving this only requires practice. Not only that, but many also forget that if they wake up to their body moving, then they should nevertheless still make an attempt at separation. Sure, their odds are lower than usual, but are still quite high.

By and far, we could go on forever about the different ways in which people fail to fully perform techniques. I only wanted to tell you, friend, to try to fully implement all of the techniques. Each sentence and every word in the sections on techniques has been vetted by years of classroom instruction and has much more weight than a cursory glance would imply.

You see, in taking this book into your hands, you may mistakenly assume it be yet another work on some-odd occult or esoteric practice, in which everything is vaguely described and the majority of details are literally left up to the reader. Do not take such an approach to this book under any circumstances. Everything here is already well known, there's no reason to shroud this practice in a cloud of secrecy. You have clear instructions right here in front of you. Just follow them.

Confidence

At nearly every seminar I get to enjoy a different student telling the same funny story. A bewildered student attends the second or third session and relates his experience: the usual story is that he abruptly wakes up in the morning, in a fully conscious state, and starts to try to separate from his body. And nothing happens. He then tries to employ the techniques. Still nothing happens. In a bout of frustration, he then thinks to heck with everything, gives up, and decides to go back to sleep. Then, he gradually starts to realize that his body is lying in a different position than when he woke up. For example, he woke up lying on his back and performed the techniques in that position. But a minute later, it turns out that he's lying on his stomach! All the while he has sure as day not moved at all physically.

What does all this mean? Friend, if you're going to doubt whether or not any of this will work for you, then even when you are in the phase, you may simply be unable to get out of bed, which is what needs to be done in such a situation. Any doubt will keep you in your body, and peg you to it.

And just the opposite, in most cases, especially when it comes to indirect techniques, it is sufficient to simply be confident and completely certain that you're going to get with it and just do it! I'm not trying to psych you up, and I'm not exaggerating. That's exactly how it is. Sometimes it is enough simply to want it, to believe in it, and to act.

Over the course of several months, I conducted a study at each seminar on the effect of confidence on effectiveness. It turned out that 90% of those who get results do everything confidently, knowing that they will be successful in either the current attempt or a following one. It also turned out that 90% of those who were still unable to achieve anything were making their attempts without confidence, without belief in themselves or in their ability to enter the phase. Draw your own conclusions, my friend.

In this book, you'll read about a large number of experiences, not only those of my own, but also those of other practitioners. This should bolster your confidence so that you'll go on and do it.

Determination

It may have seemed funny to you to compare such a powerful practice to weight lifting, but sport has more in common with it than first meets the eye. Here's another example: in soccer, the best forward will demonstrate two important qualities more than any other: wanting to score, and setting his sights on the goal. When you make attempts to exit the body, your actions should be very similar in approach.

What I have in mind, friend, are situations when you can't just rest on your laurels, but have to keep pushing on further and harder. You need to realize that success lies in your hands, and not in what somebody else does for you. You need to firmly channel all of your efforts, aiming them only at a single goal - the phase!

This means that you should use each and every favorable opportunity when practicing, taking advantage of it to achieve more and more success. For example, if something suddenly starts to work when performing indirect techniques, you should pursue it through to the end, trying to seize every chance you get. The above seems obvious enough, but many nevertheless stop at the critical moment and try to watch what happens next, or switch to another technique, not seizing the opportunity at hand. You should never allow this to happen. You can't just bounce back and forth. You have to march straight ahead.

Motivation

If you have already encountered the out-of-body phenomenon (the phase) in your life, then you already know how great it is and you hardly need any more motivation than the desire to do it again. But if you do not have any experience, then you, my friend, must first either try to understand the incredible essence of the phenomenon, or read in detail about its practical side.

The fact is that if you are going to do this just because it's something new to try and then see what happens, it's possible that you won't get any results. You have to really want it. When this desire inside you becomes deep and intense, your results will be much, much better. Moreover, it will often happen spontaneously without any intention on your part - that's how strong the power of desire and intention is!
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Re: Why you can't be out of body

Postby Student98 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:33 pm

I love this post! I think it complements the book material very well, and targets with laser-like accuracy the issues inherent in the Western mindset, for instance:

Yes, some people do have a predisposition for direct techniques, especially women. But whenever I talk about such predisposition, almost everyone thinks that I’m talking about them. You can forget about it.


How true! I really like your straight-forward style. Your no-nonsense approach is exactly what is needed for this kind of activity. I'm the opposite of that person; I usually assume you're talking about anyone but me. On the flipside, that mentality can also put me in danger of not being confident enough to make it happen. Thank you for putting so much time and effort into making this information and these techniques available for free. I can tell that you're passionate about sharing this knowledge, and I commend you for it. I have longed to achieve the phase for over 10 years now.
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Re: Why you can't be out of body

Postby Michael Raduga » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:36 pm

Firstly, it must really help you!

Books are so bad way for teaching. My real courses more affective in 10 times at least. And I wonder how to make by the books the same result.
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Re: Why you can't be out of body

Postby wiii » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:51 pm

Michael Raduga wrote: http://obe4u.com/?p=252




The fact is that if you are going to do this just because it’s something new to try and then see what happens, it’s possible that you won’t get any results. You have to really want it. When this desire inside you becomes deep and intense, your results will be much, much better. Moreover, it will often happen spontaneously without any intention on your part – that’s how strong the power of desire and intention is!

[b] http://obe4u.com/?p=252

From Ultimate Yoga: http://books.obe4u.com/?page_id=104







Here is the most powerfull method to ease your way in to the phase 'intention' as Mr Raduga says he is soo right,i personally will enter in the phase very easy just because i read something about the phase!It  is your intention..you have to want it really strong ..and again as Mr Raduga says it will mostly happen to you very easy...to me now when i dream..it is very normal to fly.to float..when i am as little lucid as i can be..in my dream i can jump from hymalayan mountains and i am 100% sure that i can fly!confidence is important too..and again Mr Raduga says it!
Read the book very closely,and read every night on this forum...till the word and its meaning enters in yous subconcious  ''THE PHASE""
over and over again before you go to sleep..that is your goal...then you will achieve it!
We are very lucky that we have someone to teach us!!And he teach us well and good...it is we that we are mistaking sometimes!
Practice=experience!
Thank you MR Raduga for sharing your knowledge with us!
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Re: Re: Why you can't be out of body

Postby astralnewbie20 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:13 am

how true this all is! I have been reading and researching OBE for years and in the last couple weeks with intense enthusiasm. I myself have always tried a direct technique initially, and it wasnt until July 3rd (last week) AFTER I had fallen asleep after 3am that I found myself floating beside my bed! I then realized that it was my intense frame of mind that was making it so complicated and keeping my mind too awake. It was only after I gave into sleep that I had allowed my astral body to do its stuff and to get itself out! If you have the desire and immerse yourself in reading this and keeping your mind focused I have no doubt that it will happen to all of us, and to me again..so I will be heeding this advice and working on indirect methods and getting back to basics.Although the alarm clock usually wakes me in the mornings I then am mentally racing with thoughts of the upcoming day and the mental anxiety of rushing up and out to work..but I will keep all these great techniques in mind and will not be deterred by my intense effort to get out when my body is not relaxed enough at night.
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Re: Why you can't be out of body

Postby MeredithSilverman » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:22 am

One of the good reads after a long time. I like the books and reads which are straightforward and to the point. Gets very productive and good in a much less time and never gets your mind off it. :) Keep up the good work. ;)
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Re: Re: Why you can't be out of body

Postby yunana » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:36 am

they dont know the meaning do it exactly,do it do not analyze,some people think the have already know hot to leave the body,but nothing happen,keep on asking and wandering,in other words they just try to hide their fear by asking the question,for me fear is number one, but when i follow every step in the phase book ,i just do it and its happen to me ! iam in the phase
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