DreamMaster wrote:There's no such thing as objective reality.
Are you sure about that? In the physical world, if both of us are looking at the same apple tree and the apples are red, we can both agree that they are red, can't we? Unless you decide to start calling the colour red green - then we have your interpretation...this, of course, is subjective. But the apple still exists outside of our minds and I can assure you it is very much physical! The apple tree is not dependent on the mind for it to exist physically. If we are both dead, the tree will still be there. Hence...objective reality
DreamMaster wrote:What it boils down to are "explanation models". There's no such thing as a dream or a lucid dream (or astral projection for that matter) - they are all explanation models designed to make sense of things.
If lucid and non-lucid dreams didn't exist, people wouldn't have them. As for your next statement after that, now you are talking about something completely different. It is an anthropological matter. It is in our nature to give meaning to things. Everything needs to have an ID and it forms part of communication - otherwise, there would be none. Agree?
DreamMaster wrote:I do NOT have a problem with him, I have a problem with his phase theory. Hence I ask critical questions.
Why would I be jealous?
Ofcourse I know my own experiences... do you need someone else to tell you what you've experienced? If so how can they possibly know?
If you don't have a problem with him, then why tell him to get off his high horse? Also, I asked you if you were jealous because that's how you were coming across to me. By the way, I don't need someone else to tell me what I experience. As I've said to you before, I simply agree with Michael Raduga because I've arrived at the same conclusions. But so that we don't clash in our beliefs any longer, I will tell you now that from my personal experience, I've seen every indication that OOBEs and Lucid Dreams are the same thing. Hence why I adopted the term Phase.
Astral Projection, on the other hand, does not exist in my book. It is a belief-centric term and not concerned with facts. First, the word "astral" can be misleading. Secondly, there is no evidence of an astral plane or that there is even an afterlife. You will find that the term implies the existence of one straight away.
You don't find any assumptions like that with the Phase term. This forum holds a pragmatic view, and, within this way of dealing with things, we acknowledge that the Phase state is still elusive. What we can't do is accept baseless fairytales that comfort people...
DreamMaster wrote:If you understand what I type and understand that EVERY question someone ask is constructive criticism, you will see that I am very constructive.
Sure. But you haven't been asking questions. You've been making affirmations and insulting the Site Owner. You even said it yourself that you'd probably get banned. It doesn't sound like an expected constructive outcome to me. Out of curiosity, what drove you to start your "constructive criticism"?
DreamMaster wrote:I did not ask you, you've made your point further up the page. I've read your view and I agree with the first part you write, but not the last.
DreamMaster wrote:what's the difference between my beliefs and yours?
Mine are based on pragmatism. Yours are based on assumptions from bias. You talk about not needing someone to tell you what you experience and yet you use spiritualist and New Age terms like "astral" "spirits" and "souls". That view sounds good to you and you have welcomed it wholeheartedly.
I, on the other hand, have conducted my own experiments and arrived at the same conclusions as the ones in this site. Until I see otherwise, there won't be any paradigm shifts.
DreamMaster wrote:I see you're very unexperienced... or very ignorant... or both
I'm not surprised that you see me this way.
DreamMaster wrote:I suggest you wash your own floor before you try to wash someone else's.
Take a close look @ yourself my friend, you'll see what you claim I am.
And what would that be?
DreamMaster wrote:You are unexperienced and get "logical" answers from someone who claims they know something. That's how religions are made, that's how politics are made, and that's how sects are made. It is the standard manipulation sequence, followed by badmouthing everybody that ask critical questions...
DreamMaster wrote:If you really want to go there; "Then how come me and so many others have arrived at the same conclusion as Michael" then you can also ask "how come so many people have different conclusion than me?" There are far more "astral projectors" and "oneronauts" than Phasers, you're outnumbered in your own logic.... How come so many more people are drawn to astral projection and lucid dreaming than the phase?
The idea of Astral Projection draws a lot of people because it is attractive and provides comfort for people. It tells people there are spirits living in the astral plane and that we never die. It's like a religion, really. Just like you said in your previous statement. That's how religions are made, remember?
hahahaha, and the phase is not "new age mumbo jumbo"?
Erm...actually...no, it's not!
DreamMaster wrote:The saltcube approach is what I have seen work best on both myself and people I know, and if you take a good look at saltcube and Michaels theory you will find many similarities...
Ok, so, if there are many similarities between this saltcube and Michael's view, then, why be so anti-Michael?
DreamMaster wrote:Since when was wikipedia considered a reliable source? If you belive everything you read there you will be disappointed...
You're right! It's not always a reliable source and I never said I believe everything I read there. I was just letting you know that this site is advertised there with the indication that it is pragmatic - which, on this occasion, the wiki guys were accurate. I wanted to see your reaction at the knowledge of Raduga's name being mentioned there.
DreamMaster wrote:I have yet to see ANY scientific proofs regarding the phase, can you please point me in the right direction?
LOL! "Scientific proofs"!
Anyway, why worry about this? You have your own experiences, remember? Besides, if I showed you links about the scientific community's stance on this phenomenon, you wouldn't bother reading them.
DreamMaster wrote:And I wonder; what does PRAGMATIC mean to you?
Seriously? LOL! I'll give you an example. Michael Raduga is the most pragmatic person I know. He bases his views on practicality and in this way he records what is true and observable to be true. This is better than relying on theories, which, as you know, are inferior to conjecture and clearly not the way to go if you are looking for answers...especially when you are dealing with the Phase.
And remember...the Phase = OOBEs and Lucid Dreams, i.e. the same thing! It's all the same!